Thanks Simon for this wonderful blog, The cut is lovely and lean, with the suppression of the waist accentuating the sharp style we were going for single button, more open foreparts, unflapped pockets, plus that lap seam of course. With over 400 years of accumulated experience on Savile Row, our master cutters and tailors take care of ensuring a perfect fit, creating the ultimate collaboration of design and craftsmanship. vergallo e.2200 for suit, e1750 for jacket Coats Read More The fact this has happened with two tailors is odd, and the only thing I can think of is that maybe you stand rather unnaturally during fittings, eg very erect? And 100 Hands does shirts in India but as the quality is so high, its still expensive, I had a navy worsted two piece suit made at W&S which was cut by Sian. Since I am attempting to avoid the common pitfalls of my first bespoke suit, I am going to get a mid-grey or charcoal suit that could be a great suit to wear for work throughout the year. Thank you, As a general rule Id want to see the cutter, but in this case Id make an exception, given Bob and everyone else have worked so closely together for a long time. Most are closer to the 1000 make and finish, but simply charge twice as much. My first British bespoke suit was last year, and if I had known about them I might well have talked to W&S. Every hem and lining felled by hand, buttonhole sewn with silk and trouser hand-sewn with curtained waistbands. Thansk, Yes, although they are differences, such as less drape, leds of an extended shoulder. Those two are often the best ways to communicate style, I really only wear white, which is why we launched with this. Wondered if you had any thoughts ? Also , Its great that you still bring your expertise to clothes within a lower price bracket .sometimes I think were losing you to the luxury market a little too much . how many weeks from measuring to first fitting, from first fitting to second fitting, etc. Yes, it would be just as acceptable (and in the same way, a little showy). Should the button and buttonhole align when the jacket is unbuttoned? I havent Im afraid apart from Luxire part of the problem is theres a lot of them so its hard to say anything comprehensive. I am happy to share my experience/pictures in 4-5 weeks when it is complete, if it is helpful? Do you think W&S would still be a good choice and do you think they would accept these preferences or is their house style quite set? Hi Simon Couldnt have been more pleased with it! The twist of thread is 40 - that is for mass-market shirts; the fabric with a double twist (two ply) from 80 to 160, is used for high-quality high-quality shirts. Simon what is your experience with Rubinacci in London? Simon's books and product collaborations are available to buy through the Permanent Style shop. The shoulder fit looks (to me) the best of your suits on here. Hi Stephen, Thanks for advice. Do listen to the tailor when you talk about it as well. However, am i expecting too much? Ultimately, the tailor will be chosen to suit my budget. Subscribe to RR1 Live+ for exclusive virtual events all year long (at least 1 per month), conversations with Robb Report editors, special perks, and more. These might include intricate monograms, unique button placements, or other personal touches that make the suit truly one-of-a-kind. I really like how the waist is just a pitch slimming/tapered but not too slim like most fashionable suits out there now, almost uncomfortable to see let alone to wear. The quality is similar, just with the price saving coming from the overseas make (presuming thats what you went for). A.) Hi Simon, Next, however, I ran the risk despite your seemingly strong opinion against drawing a tailor away from his natural house style, Simon of asking Suresh to make me an even softer, more Neapolitan style sports jacket. 11 St. George Street is a throwback to more elegant times. Alex Natt. This looks perfect! What I also find interesting and perhaps would be an interesting point of discussion with a tailor is that even though my right shoulder drops, I dont think my right armhole should be lower. How are the characters hobbies evidence of their social class. By the way, do you know whats the price at W&S for a Classic Bespoke tweed jacket? Kind Regards Apr 11, 2018 - Whitcomb & Shaftesbury final suit - great value bespoke. Do you see this as suitable for business, or not so much? Very flattering! Yes, a small change in lapel width is fine. It almost feels like cheating. More than Poole, but less than A&S. I also expect that you may receive favorable treatment in many instances, possibly skewing the actual standard of service. Im soon travelling to London, and am interested in a soft shouldered jacket or two. Bravo! Thanks for your advice though, its useful. The result may be due to specifics in my case. I am still a student but want to get my first bespoke suit made; would you still recommend Whitcomb and Shaftesburys classic bespoke and have you any experience with Huntsmans 3,500 classic bespoke? Following your review of W&S I have scheduled an appointment for their upcoming visit to NY. Thanks very much. Thats a really great question, and very useful experiences of bespoke too. Ill ask. HB, In some ways, yes, though the structure etc is different and the value itself even better too. Bespoke three peice suit in navy 13oz wool #bespoke # savilerow #handmade #suit #style #elegance #hollandandsherry #whitcombshaftesbury #mensstyle #menswear #rakish #elegance Dear Simon, Thank you very much for all your great advice! around 3000 but entirely made by them)? Trousers are made entirely by hand, with hand-sewn curtained waistbands. At the same time, I wouldnt want to be impolite and ask them to do something entirely different compared to their usual cut. Vergallo doesnt get enough attention they remain excellent value. I have gone for a three piece with extra trousers in the classic bespoke and this makes me feel happy! How would you compare this to Grahame Browne given the close pricing? And I would also sound a general warning that getting a satisfying result when asking a cutter to do a different style than what theyre used to is very hard. But when in 1760 Read More. Thanks and all the best, Michael. Also, the drape cut I realised is not much to my liking as I feel it makes me very big. Really pleased although I think there might be some mistake I dont have a fitting in a toile. Such are the hassles of bespoke tailoring. Wempe Teamed Up With Boatbuilder Tim Heywood to Make Two Limited-Edition Marine Chronometers, Rimowa Unveils a New, More Organized Pilot Case for Your Next Short-Haul Trip, The Best-Dressed Men of the SAG Awards, From Eddie Redmayne to Austin Butler. And in your opinion would a soft jacket from W&S be suitable to wear with relaxed chinos and jeans? Hi Simon. The brand is the brainchild of two brothers, Suresh and Mahesh Ramakrishnan, who both enjoyed long and successful corporate careers in New York City before they decided to open a tailor shop. Great width and shape of the lapels with a nice roll, and well balanced gorge (dont you think the modern gorge placement is too high?). It looks great. I am a doctor trust and confidence is my core value. The feeling I got when discussing some of these details with the team at W&S was one of denial of some of the problems. It looks a really nice sturdy twill from the picture. This one, or good value english tailors (for example grahame browne)? I note your enthusiasm for W&S. Hi Calvin, As they are roughly in the same price range, I consider both of them for my first bespoke suit. Id still call them an English tailor But its hard to say Id say buy whichever of the two you can stretch to. What i wanted was them to guide on what would look best based on their (extensive) experience, which they never really gave. For years, we had our suits made, explains Suresh, and we both felt that you could find good product, but it was a struggle to find good advice. First fitting was very compromised. Its nice in a sports coat, but frankly its not one I would wear with denim. Youll have to contact them. Would Rubinacci London do the trick better than Russell at Graham Browne, with whom Ive already had one rushed suit made in the past? Ie price including VAT is GBP 1362. Thanks for the response What is your view towards a staple in soft suiting in regards to lining and canvassing Half/quarter lined whilst Thin Half/minimal canvassing? Great service and advice. Wow, I think this looks fabulous! We decided to offer a hand-tailoring scheme, so John [McCabe] flew out to India and began to train local craftspeople to a Savile Row standard., The author in his corduroy suit and Donegal overcoat commissioned from Whitcomb & Shaftesbury. Also for the sake of comparison would the drawbacks of mtm for soft tailoring (disregarding fit as obvious) be less of the hand details. Every artist has their Read More, What is yachting. Thanks Chris, thats always helpful, and yes absolutely, aware of how beneficial it would be. What you may not know, though, is that while the name sounds traditional, Whitcomb & Shaftesbury has built its reputation for quality by doing things differently. Very good sales and marketing. Today. McCabe and Bigg are masters of old English styling, whereas Walton cuts a comfortable, contemporary jacket with drape with shape, loosely inspired by her training (under McCabe) at Kilgour. if you have any other suggestions of tailors for morning wear (through word of mouth) I would be super grateful for the input The style is slightly different, in that W&S tend to cut with a little less drape, less of a wide shoulder. They wont move the button or buttonhole, but they might open the shoulder seam and pick one side up slightly. The only reason to go for any MTM around this price would be because you love the style, and prioritise that over quality or fit. There isnt necessarily a third fitting, but there will usually be one or two small things that its worth refining if its your first suit. ), That means 3-4 visits for the first suit. Hi Richard An introduction to bespoke tailoring, from one of London's most exciting up-and-coming makers. Programs were set up in a number of different vocations, from metalwork to embroidery. Solito, Dalcuore, Caliendo and Rubinacci (in ascending order of price! This is one thing that has kept me reading your blog youre not a snob (in that way). 2. The only tailor Ive seen do that passably is Cifonelli and even then its not quite the same. Looking forward to know your thoughts. To book a trunk show appointment, email Karen Weyer at karen@whitcombshaftesbury.com. This is a proper Savile Row suit. One of your best suits in my opinion! I worry, however, that they might be a bit expensive. W&S seem to be a interesting chaps.. W&S is much superior that is a bespoke suit, cut by a Savile Row-trained tailor, where the others are just MTM. An appealing option cost wise compared to what some charge for RTW, and safe in the knowledge that the factory workers have been paid a fair wage. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Whitcomb + Shaftesbury UK Bespoke One Button Gray Blazer-No Pants-Fit 43 Short at the best online prices at eBay! The biggest danger is when you get to structural things (eg shoulders) or things that arent linear and therefore easy to describe (eg the shape of a lapel). I am planning to order my first bespoke suit soon. Thanks. In addition, the fitting of the trousers was really quite poor, yet the stand-in fitter (John was away) pushed me hard that they were fine. Im looking forward to commissioning a suit for my wedding next March. Hi Salvatore, Would you say W&S would be a sound option for someones first bespoke suit and if so, any advice on a maiden voyage such as this? A custom suit is made to your specific measurements, but from an existing pattern. I just wonder if for something traditional and rarer like morning dress they would be able to help guide me through the process as well as A&S. I have large shoulders, am tall and have a relatively slim waist, but dont feel comfortable looking bigger. Perhaps a little collection of posts around the issue would be good. Looking back at this, would you still have gotten the suit in 13oz instead of something like a 10/11oz? This is something most tailors dont do, but you do occasionally see it used on particularly soft or lightweight cloths. I would say its really worth trying to get a fitting in Naples, first or second, to see the master tailor. I hope someday to access (and afford) some pure Neapolitan tailoring but in our globalized world, even from a post-modern perspective purity is a questionable concept regardless. In your opinion is this offering from W&S worth the extra cost over a GB suit ? Having said that moreso that the fit quality shines through. There is a tremendous amount of added value in their product the Savile Row cache, the fact theyre actual tailors and not salesmen which I dont think is being communicated in the price. Ill reflect more on the overall style of Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, and where it sits relative to other tailors I have tried, when I publish the pictures of the Savile Row Bespoke suit. I always try and relax and dont rush my fittings. Its a nice process but one that can take years as any full wardrobe upgrade would effectively do. I am split between Graham Browne and Whitcomb. Much more Italian style, soft and more curved. The program helped to rehabilitate families whod had been affected by the tsunami, giving them new ways to earn a living, Suresh explains. Simon, And no, I dont think its appropriate for business. However, they didnt provide much design input during the process, and i really had to manage and push the project along. I wear my suit 12 hours a day but tend to have the jacket hung up most of the time, so really its trousers that are as important to me. Very compelling offering, thanks for covering. He brings with him to Whitcomb & Shaftesbury his wealth of knowledge, skill and relationships with the trade to ensure the finest outcome in standing with his credentials. When writing about the second suit might you include some further detail about the Cutter/Coatmaker and their views on what makes a good silhouette? If Im not completely wrong, but the diffrence in price is not that very big. Whitcomb & Shaftesbury Bespoke Navy Wool Savile Row Classic Fishtail Trousers LNWOT BIG GUYS Paolo Martorano Bespoke Mid Grey Fresco Hopsack Explorer Pants #1 LNWOT BIG GUYS Paolo Martorano Bespoke S110s Italian Wool Draped Gabardine Pants + 69.35 Postage + 2.22 VAT will apply Shop with confidence eBay Premium Service At Maison Bonnet, for example, the process would be a lot more involved. Back in the day, Kilgour French and Stanbury cut with a good bit of drape. Or do you think Ill not be happy with a W&S suit? Thats where John worked until 2010, and it is still his style. The British firm combines several Savile Row stalwarts with an Indian workshop that helps families in need. Although given how many issues tailors have had over the past 30 years (particularly changing business models or cutters so youre relationship goes out the window) I think theyve got as much chance of staying around as anyone. Edge tapes, hems and linings are completely felled by hand. This is definitely navy rather than blue Photography, light, white balance etc can change colours, particularly blues. top of page. Do you still recommend visiting the tailoring/shoemaking house itself, at least for initial consultation? There is Mori, which Maslow So is trying to do out of China but thats not fully launched yet. Located in the heart of London's Mayfair district, Savile Row is home to some of the world's most prestigious men's fashion designers and tailors. Both Suresh and Mahesh will be touring the U.S. between November 16 and December 1, visiting New York, Washington D.C., Boston, Los Angeles and then returning to New York. The entire team was excellent and I await the return of their overseas visits. So be prepared that its a risk. Youll find a few reviewed here, most obviously W&S, Graham Browne, Choppin & Lodge, and Manning & Manning. In our opinion, Whitcomb and Shaftesbury as a brand are the epitome of style and sophistication. Are there any other tailors in the Milan/Northern Italy area that I should consider as well, that would be great starting points to the high-end bespoke world? How would you compare them to Tim Everest or C&D for MTM in terms of quality and value? Is that a consequence of your intentions or is it more John McCabes style of cutting? It is just one mans opinion but going in I was definitely expecting more. Whitcomb actually offers two services one partially made by this Indian workshop (wholly owned by them) and one by a normal Row tailor. Interesting article. Or take in some pictures of styles you like. I am considering the Classic Bespoke option for my first bespoke commission. It looks a bit like Anderson & Sheppard and Dege & Skinner. However, I will not be returning to W&S because I believe the suit was compromised in cut, not so much in make. Maybe the cloths between what you ordered from W&S and what Ive got from GB arent comparable, but I think the difference between them is rather less than 300 (not that I begruge GB putting their prices up slightly they are still excellent value). And often they vary in service depending on who does the outfitting. Re your question from Anonymous above, Des had made me a couple of garments. I dont have the cloth number, but I can get it. I really like the concept of this certainly a product with much more soul than your average MTM suit. I want to have a morning suit made. Great post Simon, really enjoyed. I guess its about having the knowledge and confidence to get the most out of them and the process. (Which one imagines is the standard 6-9 weeks. Hi Simon. Just focusing on the big-name tailors and dominant styles to start with. I think youll be absolutely fine if thats what you want. Id pick between the two on style more than anything else. Simon. Before you raise an . What is bespoke suit - Whitcom & Shaftesbury What is bespoke suit May 12, 2022 whitcombands 7:49 am Savile Row bespoke suit To commission a bespoke suit is the epitome of sartorial luxury. With a business suit I can see the clear value add with the handpadding of canvas and shoulders, but for softer tailoring of less canvassing and natural shoulders, (overall less structure) the compromise should not be as drastic? Have a look at our Suit style series for other advice too, Sorry if im asking something youve already been asked, but are there any other comparable offerings in this price range/overseas production for a first foray in to bespoke, or are W&S out there on their own in this regard. "Artisan of the Year 2021" - Permanent Style Thank you for your help and the great website. Next Magento currency ins not converting and in all websites still the same Their classic bespoke service, which involves cutting the suit in London (by a very experienced Row cutter), and then having it largely made in India (in a workshop run by a Row tailor) promised fantastic value at 1350 + VAT for a suit. Thank you for getting back to me. They seem stylistically similar (soft w some drape), and affordable. I am unsatisfied considering GB is 850 but their forte is not in this style of tailoring. 1 talking about this. I initially thought I would go for A&S as I love the style and think they would guide me through the process extremely well. Thanks Simon. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The blue suitseems to be a popular choice for people in sales professions at the moment. Id always recommend that you stick to a tailors house style as much as possible. I have a coat in a pale wool that perhaps could have looked like a toile? I wonder if you could tell me, from your experience, about the rough timeframe of this process. Moreover, thanks to the well-oiled workings of the Chennai workshop, New York customers who place orders during the first leg of the trunk show (November 16-19), will be able to have their pieces fitted when the brothers pass back through New York between November 29 and December 1, negating a long wait (most tailors wont return to fit clients till spring 2022). W&S was at about the same price point without the extra trousers for a super 100 9/10 oz made in seven weeks in India. They opened first in Brunswick Square, in 1806, originally specialising in military tailoring, with particular merit at the time of the Battle of Waterloo. The shoulders are quite soft and natural, although the team can certainly do more roping if requested. Our coats are fully handmade with floating canvases. Classic bespoke, single breast in Minnis grey wool cloth 12/13oz. Wonderful. I wouldnt go if you want that strong shoulder, no. A little drape like Henry Poole uses is fine, but not more. See how much you wear it and what you enjoy about it, at least for a while. Gone for a nice navy classic worsted. Among many others, it is known for the large number of ateliers located on it, Read More. I would estimate 9cm but if you get a chance to measure it I would be grateful. Very best. If to compare, which make is most value for money? Like all English pretty much, its just too sharp and structured. Interesting to see how well a lime tie works too; I wouldnt have considered that. Also, in terms of Whitcombs house styleI prefer a more classical style although my technical knowledge of suiting is lacking. Impressive finish, congratulations! The quality of his work surpasses anything I have had from the Row, or any of the big name French or Italian tailors often named here. The same business model doesnt quite exist, no. Im all for casting a wider net but lets keep it in the round. By subscribing, I agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Would W&S be a good option. It sounds like it might also be due to the fact that this was your first experience. How does their house style translate to a relatively casual sports coat (like a tweed jacket with some casual detailing that could be worn down with denim, or up for the office with flannel)? Your comments in the discussion are helpful in triangulating their merits. ), Thanks for the recommendation of the neapolitan tailors. Dear Simon, Alex N. OK, good Alex. I also appreciate your point about opening up the possibilities, rather than providing something concrete and narrow, which is not something i had considered, but fully makes sense. Simon Are there any similar services like the Huntsman 100 from other savile row tailors you would recommend? Its old Kilgour, closest to A&S probably. As ever a brief article on this subject would be highly appreciated! Yes, for the first-timer expectations can certainly be too high, which was the case for me. Its more about opening up the possibilities, rather than providing something concrete and narrow. What are your thoughts on Huntsman 100 (I think thats what its called right) anyway? Buttonholes are sewn with silk thread by hand. A Graham Browne suit and a Huntsman suit are traditional, structured English suits. Whitcomb & Shaftesbury is based on George Street in Mayfair, just a few paces from Savile Row, and offers two bespoke services: its Savile Row Bespoke service, which is made in the. Can you confirm the exact fabric for reference if it is navy rather than the mid blue the photographer has managed to make it look like? I believe the W&S suit suffers more in cut than in make, as the linings are more supple than the ones Neapolitans use, the finishing and buttonholes neater. Simon are you familiar with Redmayne 1860s MTM service and, if so, between Redmaynes 1860 Acclaim MTM and W&S classic bespoke, which would be better quality? If you decide to trust one and go for it how far can you impose your ideas of cut and style on them? I hope you do not mind me mentioning, but I noticed that you also have a new piece in work with them and that it has been made in a toile initially. I understand there a differences in style obviously. Thanks for your blog Simon! The only thing youd be looking for is a difference in execution and there are some tiny points there. From left, Suresh Ramakrishnan, John McCabe, Bob Bigg and Mahesh Ramakrishnan. Ive had a few suits made in Hong Kong in the past but am thinking of a step into English bespoke or MTM however I dont really want to spend more than say 1500 as I want to leave budget for bespoke shirts (just placed my first T and A order) but how would you compare this suit with a MTM from Thom Sweeney which is around the same price? I also wouldnt say it will make any difference seeing them both at different points. I liked their house style but it indeed has more drape in the chest than I had experienced in the past. Can you recommend me some affordable tailors in london? It seems to have a bit of drape, and the shoulders arent too military? This will offer better value than any MTM service, by some margin. Is it sailing, sailing, or the way to new horizons? The timeline is very similar to other bespoke offerings usually 4-6 weeks between each stage, often quicker towards the end. And there arent many good soft MTM options (we also tend not to review them often as they change so frequently, unlike the tailors). Cheers. Thanks for your time, JK. Whitcomb & Shaftesbury is based on George Street in Mayfair, just a few paces from Savile Row, and offers two bespoke services: its Savile Row Bespoke service, which is made in the conventional fashion in on-site workrooms, and Classic Bespoke, which is cut in London and made in the brand's workshop in Chennai, India. I dont want any slim, modern stuff. This article maybe one of the most significant you have written in terms of opening up bespoke suiting to a market that couldnt justify the 3k plus cost of a row suit, irrespective of relative value. I havent tried Edwards MTM so I cant really compare Im afraid. Like the lap seam down the back of the jacket (an idea I shamelessly copied across from my Chittleborough & Morgan suit). One of the biggest such sites in the world, it receives up to 500,000 page views a month. That makes more sense. If youre into your clothes, you might well know the name Whitcomb & Shaftesbury. As a more extreme example how does it compare to your C&M and Cifonelli suits: if you say its nearly as good that may change everything!! Another question: in another post you mention desiring to be measured at the house itself; a friend of yours had gone to a trunk show and did not receive good results with fit. I mentioned it as a collar gap to Zizolfi after the first one and we thought we had resolved it at the fitting but when I wore it a couple of times, I saw the same issue again. And great work on the site, a unique and reliable resource! Black mens jeans: how to choose and with what to wear? Not for anything approaching a Neapolitan cut Stuart, no. The term bespoke comes from the verb bespeak, which means to speak for something. Accepting your assurances that it is navy, I think it looks great and would do well in my eyes for my perception of business which may differ from those in the financial sector, I didnt Im afraid no, so I dont have the cost. English style in mens clothing England has always been one of the poles of mens fashion along with Italy. And no, it wouldnt be vastly different from KH&L, More importantly, for that price range this is certainly the best value suit out there, and it sounds like one that would suit your style as well. In terms of house styling, who would you compare W&S to? My reason for the proposal is that i had a bespoke suit made by Whitcomb & Shaftesbury last year and i cant say i was impressed by their service, but i am also not sure if my expectations were set too high. We now turn to the problems I believe the suit has. Thanks as always, In London, just them and city tailors like Graham Browne. 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