However, they also prove a nuisance to local livestock. Best of luck, fortunately it sounds like you really wont be relying on luck.. Shot 3 whitetail doe in the noodle with that rifle, and it wasn,t graphic. I probably keep the fine folks at Magpul in business with my 50, 40 and 30 mag purchases. Trained dogs can be used to capture or kill depredating lions. Theyll put down vermin, but small may not put down dangerous game. wild boars Carry big. By Mary Forgione. Considering all the crap I have received from all the internet commandos and bear experts for foolishly using only a 9mm I am glad I was not carrying my Tokarev! Mountain lions are a specially protected species in California. Penetration tests have shown that load to penetrate almost exactly the same distance as a standard hardcast 44 Magnum load. My Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt with handloads, 300-grains, 1,200 fps (1,192 to be exact) goes with me on a lot of black bear hunts with hounds. load of No. Put up the fishing gear and settled in for the night. This gun is horrible to carry full time when it must be out of site sometimes!! However, the realization that you might have to use one to defend against a couple-hundred pounds of teeth and fangs doesnt exactly make one feel like Zorro; in fact, I looked down at it and said to myself:This is gonna hurt. First round 00 buckshot then slugs. He said not really. The Southern California man charged with shooting and killing a protected mountain lion this summer has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and was ordered to serve 240 hours of community service in . 10 mm, the old lady behind me at checkout at Cabelas asked me why I was buying so much ammo. Unlike grizzlies, black bears seem to be much less predictable and do not give as many signals huffing, grunting, ears back, etc. National Park Service, via AP, FILE. ( Watch a Florida panther pass . Also, my pre-1982 That combo gets exceptional penetration you just have to have a revolver that can handle it like that the Ruger, Freedom Arms, etc. Native to the Americas, the puma, also called the mountain lion, cougar, catamount or panther, often shares its habitat with several other top predators, such as wolves, bears, coyotes and jaguars. Just my 2 cents for whats its worth. What part of the state? I had never shot a bear before , so I decided to put it down with a shot to the next. . Yes! I learned more in this article about wildlife and practical sidearms than any other article to date in thirty-five plus years. Also, for killing venomous snakes. It is insufficient to break bones in a large animal like bear and isnt intended for that. The best bear gun is, like the best cc gun, the one you have on you when you need it. Being aware that sounds and smell plays a role in a bears survival by detecting prey, keep food or harvested deer meat or other game tightly contained as it would be analogous to swimming in blood filled water with man-eating sharks. Can you shoot while on your back or while youre being chewed on? The most significant differences between a jaguar and a mountain lion are their size, speed, and bite force. killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. At least .40 caliber, 300 grains and 1,000 fps. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! At the range, 3 or 4 factory rounds and Ive had enough. There are no stopping calibers; only stopping shots. I used them for too many years to be so. I also have a small Freedom Arms in .500 Wyoming Express. Leave bear territory, do a quick mag switch and your back to the right rounds for CCW. Hunting, 9MM hollow points will kill anything in Texas short of a feral hog. I have three loads that I shot, 200 gr. I believe he used a 9mm. They have great hunting senses that help them spot prey along with sharp claws and powerful bites. Chances are youll only get to use one? Worse is the comment on using a .38 Spl in bear country is better then no gun: BS, if your not prepared, dont go! All of these four-legged animals that have attacked humans are in my state: He lives every day with brown bears and has guided to dozens if not hundreds of them. If the mountain lion successfully ambushed a wolf, the fight is immediately over, and the wolf is dead due to a pierced skull or ripped throat. Good responses. Remember one thing in Bear country. You have entered an incorrect email address! The farmer who owned the lambs also contacted a trapper in hopes that they could do something about the mountain lion. @1,3000+ FPS, a 255 gr. A man accused of taking part in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot is now facing house arrest for killing a mountain lion in Colorado - with a gun he wasn't supposed to have.. Patrick Montgomery was . Radically Invasive Projectile G2 ammo works! so why risk it. Even After watching a grizzly tear apart a moose calf in the Tetons I took my s&w .40 to a pawn shop and traded it for a .41 magnum Taurus tracker with a 4 ported barrel, The S&W .500 was too heavy to carry while hiking. @ 1,100+ FPS!! Oaf, that was funny! On my next trip I will get a gun with a 4 barrel!! No, they dont. My rule of thumb is the minimum is 4-3-1. reviews, So, perhaps .45 colt is NOT the best choice for a bear. Rocky the dog was left with a hole in his head that went "down to his brain" after he bravely defended his . I got a buddy who is a duputy with Harris County (Tx) Sherrifs office. can of bear spray is your best defense, for within 50 feet. Although, for me, the closest I want to get to a rattler is a 44 mag snake load, preferably my Judge in .410 7 shot. My other handgun, my day-to-day gun, is a well-worn Smith & Wesson Model 36, in .38 Special. . It is all filled with a bias against firearms.. heat treated WFN LBT now for these situations. Penetration and shot placement are king. Will a 9mm or 38 spl kill a bear? I just wander where his Pistol and the rigging went to. Certainly, they have before. Big bears do not get big being stupid around people. We were given dominance over the animals, and we all got here at the same time. That being said, I would carry both. My wife carries an old Model 60. that will allow the bullets to be seated and crimped .100 further out than factory specs. the 45 Colt has the advantage. And if he could run too fast, any caliber will work for knee caps!!!! The hollow point would probably work against you with the skull of a mountain lion. Couple Im friends with have a vacation home in NW Montana(we all live in So. We now have on earth more humans than were ever born since the beginning of mans evolution and with the masses of excess pollution we have already destroyed the planet we are living on. This account from the Camp Verde Bugle, also says there were two shots. Weve got them here in the Central Mountains of Utah. Caliber: 357 or better. Cork Grahams rig. He veered off, probably because I stopped moving or smelled that I peed my pants. shop reading and start thinking. I have several 44 mags a .41, .45 Colt and 8 different .357s in various types and the 329PD is lightweight and with the 225s is heavy medicine for bears. The photos are nice, but all the ammo photos are of hollow points, and I have substantial doubts about the value of hollow points against bears, especially grizzlies. The 357-magnum case is just a bigger capacity shell able to provide much better performance. Why dont you go out in the woods and try out some of your hollowpoints . a lot of hunting forums ive read recommend at least .357 for the wilderness and thats the bare minimum for small to somewhat medium game/predators. Just food for thought Stay safe Brian. I have had experience with all of them and know he is right on target. No matter what anybody says, Shoemaker got lucky with that 9mm on the bear. You'd be much, much better off with bear spray. Until you dump a 15 rd mag into some calibrated ballistics gel, hold your amateur and mis-informed comments for all the other mommys wanna bes. Ive reached out for three gentlemen all of whom I call a friend for advice and a few experiences regarding their encounters. The early anthropologists visiting Alaska, brought back numerous polar bear skulls with a 22 rimfire hole in the top. People started carrying bear spray in that area. A Colorado runner who fought off and killed a mountain lion who ambushed him is speaking out about the attack that left him with multiple gashes to his . Jim Farmer Hard cast is king. They only work if you have them with you. Any wildlife that is killed will remain the property of the state and will be reported to the division within five days. Beside, everyone agrees, and it has been my personal experience in bear (black only so far, but grizzly are about) stand-offs hauling out elk quarters in the Bitterroot Mtns that youre only going to get two shots and the extra round of a semi-auto (6 + 1) offers over a six-shooter revolver is a debate of deck chair arrangements on the Titanic. Or even a simple GLOCK 10mm like the A.H.P. I carry either my Ruger Alasken 44 mag, or my Ruger GP 100 in 44 Special with custom loaded 255 gr. As I think about it, I very well might start doing what commenter New Continental Army suggested: carry two guns. Her reaction was the right one, experts said, no matter how risky it might have seemed. This is largely down to a lack of resources in their own habitats. The ultimate outcomeof this predatory performanceisn't clear, but watching a puma stalking a pair of bull elk makes for an unforgettable sighting. killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. I . He put his paw on his shoulder. I always heard all you need is a .25 auto. And yet if you carry an effective caliber/bullet combination for coyotes and small mountain lions, you are seriously underpowered for the big beasts in the woods. I disagree one cant empty a glock into a bearIf that makes me a fool then I guess Ill continue to be one but I fire all those guns weekly having the benefit of a backyard range. In Alaska, meat is often removed from a kill site via a frame pack and two strong legs, and all that blood creates a scent trail like a flashing All-you-can-eat buffet advertisement. The big cats are thin skinned and not that hard to kill. My mountain weapon is a 458 SOCOM, semi-auto, from a 8in barrel, eotech halo-graphic, green laser and 1000 lumen light, with a 300gr lead tip hollow point. Newsweek has contacted the California Department of Fish and Wildlife for comment. Dogs' and bobcats' toes are shaped like an oval. We killed about 5 hogs every week he shot them with 22 never saw any that didnt fall over dead. It provides some seemingly good info, but some is just confusing and troublesome. The one time I did push these cases was to experiment with that claim, and after 5 heavy loadings, the primer pockets were very loose, but no sign of any case separation. and driving a rig your not in the Alaskan brush. This may not have been a great time for firearm but it begs the questions: (1) What's a good caliber to stop a cat at 3 - 20 yds, and (2) what kind of round (solid, hollow point)? Yes I admit, Im a revolver person. I can shoot 100rds of 480 in a day, that equals two loads of .44 mag or one shot of casull and none of the 500. My colleague and friend Bryce Towsley (brycetowsley.com) is a veteran gun writer who has considerable experience with bears of all sorts. In a close encounter this bear would have had enough time to kill me with no problem. white-tailed deer I have a buddy who guided a hunter with a .50 AE to a brown in the late eighties when it came out and it was a disaster. Understanding that a grizz is top oh the list for a bad and aggressive attitude, a grizz cant kill you more then any other bear could. When they were hunted with dogs in the 1950s and 60s, many were shot with .22 rimfire cartridges from both rifles and pistols. That said, a single documented 9mm kill is not exactly something I would bet on winning the bear fight every time or even most of the time. Works good for road rage as well. I no longer use trick bullets or many jacketed bullets. Id take the 9mm any day if it was my only 2 choices, loaded with 147 flat nose +P+ from Underwood Ammo. Which brings up the old but true adage. The only grizzly I ever saw that was dead right there.. His wife left Houston shortly after he passed. They are not fun to shoot, not fun to carry. Remember you can be turned into bear shit with in two days if you are wrong! Thank you! I saw a beautiful Blond one in Glacier Natl Park a couple of years ago. In Colorado, population estimates range from 3,000 to 7,000 mountain lions. Though it is illegal under state law to kill a mountain lion to protect a pet, CPW has decided not to press charges. A rabid animal is something you do not even want to touch. Hard cast bullet are the best for bear defense, they will penetrate like nothing else out there. Id be packing heat. Grizzlies make mock charges; black bear do not or thats what the experts say. One must realize that with the adrendeline flowing, a moving target and possibly poor light conditions it is not easy to hit well with a hand gun no matter how good you are at the range! The 12-year-old in Alaska who just shot the brown with the shotgun is the son of a good friend. It can be very difficult to bring down a rabid animal. I heard that some hikers on Mt. If you are entering bear inhabited areas, be prepared for the worst situation by having a firearm with sufficient foot-pounds to stop a bear attack. Mine rides in a Diamond D Guides Choice model. Colt Magnum June 7, 2018 At 19:23. I was hunting in Alaska well before most of your parents even drew a breath. Most exhibit the same irrational fear of bears as the rest of the country and irrational fear does little to generate rational ideas. If the Hellsing 454 Casull is ever made (semi- auto), I want one. I carefully googled this story using the locationImpossible to find any story that confirms that what you said id true. He said none. That is a political and social problem.. However, I can get 2 aimed shots with my hot 10mm for every one with any big bore revolver Ive ever shot. If so, what is the problem? Young cubs are emerging for the first time, and mothers are ultra-protective. First shot went wild as the bear clamped down on his forearm and shook him. You need to be able to kill a bear in a moments notice, most times a bear is just doing what they do , when suddenly a stupid hiker startles the wild animal and It sees you as a threat ! In the end the animals will lose as even the anti-hunting crowd will realize that dangerous animals cannot be tolerated around civilization as there is no room for both humans and dangerous animals or wild animals that destroy crops. I carried a 454 casull in Alaska heavy l now carry a glock 20 10mm 15 rounds even if I dont stop the bear shooting all the way to the end just makes me fell better. If one only goes out when and where a mild breeze at most is at their back on a sunny day.. Well you get my drift. I also recommend if youre down to your last round and the bear is still coming, use the last round on yourself. do revolvers. Between 3- and 3.5-inch-wide tracks. Unless you are an expert hand-gunner with tons of real world experience.. carry a rifle and have the pistol as backup. CCIs classic .38 Special shot or snake Hard cast bullets at 1100 fps. That long pipe makes for a heavier gun, but Im OK with that because the additional sighting distance and small velocity gain are both appreciated. They only penetrated a 1/4 of an inch, while the .357 round went through the skull and ended up about nine inches deep in the neck. From the Noatak to Frazier Lake, Kodiak, Ive seen a lot of bears. Personally, I'd feel the best with a .44 mag, .45LC, or 45-70 in a Marlin carbine. Back in Penetration is what is needed, no hollow points. I also have a Ruger Redhawk in 45 Colt and I carry my hand loaded 300 gr hard cast bullets. The bear biologist was tracking the animals when I stepped out of the woods and she told me how close we were to the bear. Mountain lions dont have a reputation for requiring powerful firearms to put them down. 99% of surviving a bear attack is having the brass to stand steady enough to make a good shot. Despite the firepower, these guys all tried to avoid brown bear encounters. Between travel & the country this gun was never more than arms reach away all that time!! Does that mean my woods gun a .44 Magnum revolver with 6-inch barrel and loaded with 240 grain soft-point bullets is overkill for mountain lions? To purchase a sidearm for bear country on GunsAmerica, click here. Almost no one practices with bear spray and almost no one can get their can to bear (pun intended) and spray within 4-5 seconds. I have yet to set foot in Alaska, but I have many friends and colleagues who either live there, or have significant hunting experience in the 49th state, where encounters with brown bears can honestly represent the hunter becoming the hunted. Mountain lions are apex predators with the ability to kill elk, mule deer, and coyotes with ease - but they aren't usually aggressive toward hikers and their dogs. One lion can consume up to 20 or 30 pounds of meat in a single meal. 50 round box should last a lifetime. might be ok for a black bear, but will likely piss off a coastal bear. He shot it twice point blank with his 9mm and the hog just shook its head and continued to walk around. I was helping a friend butcher a hog he had raised. # 3. Equipped with piano wire springs, the wisely designed transfer bar and adjustable sights, I am very confident with this pistol in hand. would have killed him by a horrible mauling! I looked at my knife on my hip and quickly decided thst wouldnt work. feral dogs 540 gr leaving the 7 barrel at 1200 FPS. I enjoyed the article. pistol. took advantage of this for their hike the following day. Redhawk in double action may give the shooter a vital split second advantage. With a 3-inch barrel and a six-shot cylinder combining for a weight of just 25 ounces, this gun was made to be both carried and shot. A lion's natural life span is probably about 12 years in the wild and up to 25 years in captivity. Im not a hunter, but a hiker. Its available right now, only in 9 mm, .40 S & W and Even then, I havent seen a failure in nearly 10 loadings, at which time I usually get rid of them. I recommended getting a .357 Magnum or a larger caliber. The cougar was probably at the end of the rage stage, where attacks on almost anything are common. A farmer living in Lower Lake, in Lake County, noticed the dead lambs last week and notified the California Department of Fish and Wildlife. With respect to the brownies, I have reached out to the bear guides, residents and hunters for their wisdom and experience on the matter, to find out exactly which sidearms they favor and why. A large bore hot load can be a challenge to control and difficult for multiple shots, while something like a 10mm in a good semi-auto allows for powerful rounds and multiple shots rapidly fired on target for many. I agree, whatever you have at the moment, is the best choice. Dick Casulls brainchild improves the ballistics of the .45 Colt even in modern handguns and provides an entirely different performance level for those who can handle it. Sure, semi-automatics have their place. Jul 30, 2019. Dating back to 1873, the .45 Colt will provide very impressive terminal ballistics when loaded in a strong, modern handgun. Absolutely. These people were lucky they didnt get rabies. If you are confronted by a bear, leave the deer or food and do not run as this triggers the predators instinct to charge after you as prey. He is a hard-core gun guy and he agrees with me on cartridges, guns and bullets. I bought Bear Loads in .45 LC and .357 MAG, but they were both hollow points (300 & 180 grains, respectively). Hard cast/ full metal jacket is important in smaller calibers to at least give you penetration. Shoot, shovel, and shut up. Its often with me in bear country and has made several trips to Alaska. Id wager that Ive walked within feet of bear and cougar many times without realizing that they were there. the 45 colt will out perform even the 454 if the right cases are used in bullet weights up to 410gr. Exactly. tell me want have you really killed lately. Speaking of cougars, check out this video from Barcroft TV. The hunting part mostly Brown bear hunting. I think anybody going into bear country should read the article about bear defense guns and ammo @ garrettcartridges.com This should answer most questions on the subject. Mountain lions actually have the largest hind legs (proportionally) of all the members of the cat family. Again, his Smith and Wesson Model 66 vermin such as raccoon, skunk, possum, etc. Its very light and handy to carry. Wolfe played for the Broncos from 2012-19 and the Ravens in 2020. Roughly the same size as my 8 S & W 44 mag, but a lot more fire power. They come in 45 Win Mag and 50 AE as well. The result was a dead dog with one of the bears and almost a dead friend with one of the hogs. The mountain lion also occasionally preys on domestic livestock and pets. A bear spray story- That being said I would never recommend a .22 for bear protection or hunting. Hornady, Curious if anyone has evaluated any of the older Cold War Warsaw Pact pistols. Brutal to shoot, but effective. People started carrying bear spray in that area. Methinks your anti-Judge/Governor bias is showing. He saved them both, barely, with his .338 rifle. Si saw a black bear last year, and got lost running away from it. But in advanced Industrialized Countries your a dying bread of cat. He said while the animal tried to bite Pauls head, it didnt actually do it, only slightly clawing the boys back. Hunting and slaughtering are hardly a comparison. You can keep your semi-autos and single action revolvers. Florida State Lawmakers Introduce 'Constitutional Carry', The Staccato CS Brings Real Performance to the Concealed, Meet ROSE: SIG SAUER's Complete Concealed Carry Solution for, Honolulu Issues First Concealed Carry License. Fortunately the latter emptied his 4 Smith and Wesson Model 66 Mountain lion facts. God Bless old Friend. There are many rifles to go with other calibers that would be nice to have same caliber bullet in pistol and rifle (i.e. Nobody sane confronts a bear with a pistol, the 480 is not perfect for the job. They were highly experienced survivalists. The study found that adult male lions were more likely to kill less but bigger prey than females. There are some real men out there who have seen a bear in a zoo and have shot their 500 SW 4 times 6 years ago. They could see the best place to setup before the Mosquito came out. I have killed over 140 head of big game in Australia, waterbuffalo, moose, elk, deer, antelope, hogs, exotics, many black bear, and one charging brown bear in Alaska at 5 feet with a hand gun. sure, sure, sure. within the last 30 years, this doesnt necessarily need to apply to civilians. .38spl are pretty light loads. Sounds like you have everything covered. The authors well-worn, and well-loved Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt is a perfect handgun for bear country. My buddy Marty Groppi who enjoys the famous trout streams of Upstate New York carries a Smith & Wesson Model 29 in the classic .44 Magnum, a combination that will most definitely save your bacon. My only proof of that assertion goes back 17 years when I was unkowingly walking my blind dog very near a collared grizzly sow with two cubs. In states like California that have outlawed hunting of mountain lions they have become increasingly bold in recent years and what was once common in ancient times i.e. He ran to get the gun, and when the animal started to investigate whether P.J.s head was bite-sized, Smith told him to shoot the animal, which he did with one extremely well-placed shot. Hollow points sacrifice penetration for larger wound channel . I saw one 200 yards from my home while deer hunting several years ago. while you are on the road system you are in cell phone communications 90% of the time. The buffalo bore 350grain fmj punches through 20 pine boards on a youtube vid. Lmaoand excellent thought below about the 454 brass trimmed down. Not like that should be a problem anyways. I call BS. Buffalo bore makes a 380 grain hardcast gas checked round now too. 1100 fps trained dogs can be used to capture or kill depredating lions crimped.100 further out than specs... 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